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PostSubject: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 6:36 am

The Monty Hall problem is a famous puzzle based on an American game show. Here it is:

Suppose you're on a game show, and you're given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is a car; behind the others, goats. You pick a door, say No. 1, and the host, who knows what's behind the doors, opens another door, say No. 3, which has a goat. He then says to you, "Do you want to stick with Door No. 1, or switch to Door No. 2?" Is it to your advantage to switch your choice?

You, of course, want the car.

So, what would you do?

I'll be revealing the "secret" soon, so just say what you would do and don't ruin it for other people by looking it up. Wink (If you already know it, don't reveal it either, because people might still be trying to figure it out themeselves) Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 6:59 am

Sounds interesting, and is the 1st I've heard of it.

I'd probably give in and swap tbh.
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 7:06 am

What.
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 7:23 am

KrikenKing wrote:
What.

It makes sense. Just read over it. xD (If you think this part is complicated, just wait till you hear the answer) Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 7:25 am

I want to look it up but I know I really shouldn't D:
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 8:03 am

I would swap as well
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 8:46 am

But...but I want the goat...
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 8:49 am

Thought you would...
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 8:52 am

I want the host. *pulls out dagger*
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 9:01 am

But.. what if he's not Irish?
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 9:03 am

I'm a King. I can kill anyone I deem suspicious.
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 9:07 am

Then kill Mr. K as he killed Twi.
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 9:13 am

Routledge: *puts on tinted spectacles* There is not yet enough evidence to deem him murderous, yet all gameshow hosts are miserable misers and deserve a little stabbing.
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 9:20 am

Awww D:
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 10:26 am

Cormster wrote:
Thought you would...
No you didn't...Why don't you like me?

...

I didn't think there was any advantage to switching though....
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 11:27 am

Jazz wrote:
Cormster wrote:
Thought you would...
No you didn't...Why don't you like me?

...

I didn't think there was any advantage to switching though....

Sorry If I made you think that I didn't wuvv you, Jazz. Course I do.

Also, if there's no advantage to switching, then there's no advantage to not switching :/
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSat May 15, 2010 2:01 pm

"Why don't you like me?" was the question I asked you earlier Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSun May 16, 2010 4:55 am

I think it's time to reveal: THE ANSWER!

Probably one of the easiest ways to explain how this works, is by simulating it with three playing cards from a normal deck.(Me and my playing cards Razz) (Also, you can get a deck of playing cards and try it for yourself too if you want)

Let's say, the Ace of spades represents the car. 2 random cards represent the goats.

Now, seeing as there are 2 random cards, there's a 2 in 3 chance of you picking one of them, right?

And seeing as there's one Ace of spades, there's a 1 in 3 chance of you picking it, right?

So, when you start, there's more of a chance of you picking a random card(A goat) than the Ace of Spades(The car)

This also means, that when you take away one of the random cards, if you switch your choice, the probability of getting the car changes to 2 in 3.

That last bit confused you didn't it? Wink

Well here's a diagram to help you understand:


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So, this means, that there's a 2 in 3 chance of you getting the car if you switch, but only a 1 in 3 chance of you getting the car if you stick with your original answer.

So, it's better to switch! Smile

If you have any questions, or if you still don't get it, just say and I'll answer your queries as well as I can.
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSun May 16, 2010 8:43 am

The Monty Hall problem 1-ani-phoenix-wargg
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSun May 16, 2010 11:08 am

The diagram confused me even more... ;-;
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSun May 16, 2010 11:18 am

Jazz wrote:
The diagram confused me even more... ;-;

Use this video to help you understand better:
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSun May 16, 2010 11:35 am

It's a shame that chances of you playing a 70's gameshow are less than 1%.
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSun May 16, 2010 11:41 am

xD Very true...
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PostSubject: Re: The Monty Hall problem   The Monty Hall problem Icon_minitimeSun May 16, 2010 12:01 pm

Also, lol, 'booby prize'. It doesn't so bad when you put it like that.
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